On a very warm & humid Saturday 23rd July, in the evening there
were about 20 or so
visitors for the Moths event. Unfortunately most left before the Moths started coming to the trap.
Important! ...... If you know I have Identified any of these incorrectly please let me know!
We will need the ID's for records.
Brimstone: Opisthograptis
luteolataThe only one of 3 that didn't fly away instantaneously after opening tub.
2 different individuals.
Large Yellow Underwing: Noctua pronuba
Another zipping off, most of these were instantaneous flyers on sniff of freedom.
Shoulder
Striped Wainscot: Leucania commaMight be wrong with this one - another leaving the scene, had to grab fast, bit blurry I'm afraid.
Another quick leaving Moth - Managed to grab a shot before it left!
Eudonia
lacustrata
Finally 2 that I couldn't identify - Assistance required Please.
Not forgetting the Night time flying Orange Ladybirds:
Cream Spot
Ladybird: Calvia
14-guttata
Lots of these were out that night!
We also had a Clouded Border but there are no pictures to put up.
13 comments:
The ladybird is Calvia 14-guttata, also collected on the night was Clouded Border Lomaspilis marginata. Your identifications look good but cannot identify the two mystery moths.
Hi,
Your "Green Carpets" are July Highfliers.
It's way to late for Hebrew Characters, they're a spring species. Maybe try Purple Clay instead.
The micro is Eudonia lacustrata.
I would advise against submitting records of rare local species without being confident of identification such as Dingy Footman.
Charlie.
Thanks Allan, there was no Clouded border tubbed for Id.
Thanks Charlie, I agree with your observations & have altered accordingly.
I have no intention of Submitting Records to anybody! It is for our own CBWG records.
I don't claim to be a Moth expert, just enjoying collecting, photographing & making a list of what we see. Well trying to .... haha!
All assistance much appreciated! Thanks!
The Clouded Border is a definite record as I have a poor quality photo it must have escaped when people were viewing the moths, I think they had quite a few 'escapes'. I agree about the Dingy Footman as my initial identification was Common Footman.
Alan Pullan
Clouded Border is now on list for the night Alan, What would be really useful is a confident Id on the Footman moth. I looked at the 2 side by side on google & looking at the leg colours, tidiness of wing edges etc based my ID from that. It's getting discussed here but we could do with a positive ID of which Footman it is? I would like to put correct name to the picture, or I'll have to back off to simply "Footman Moth" that much we all agree with lol.
Are we saying it is definitely a Common Footman?
Yes I am confident on two features that it is Common Footman. First the hind wings of the Dingy Footman are almost as dark as the front wings whilst the Common Footman has much lighter hind wings as did our moth. Secondly the Dingy Footman is reputed to curl its wing round its body which our moth did not do. ( check out ukmoth.org for this reference).
Hope this resolves the matter for you.
Alan
Cheers Alan, Updated accordingly, I think we may have them all correct now, well except the 2 unknown battered & tatty ones.
I think we should do more moth catching, & get a better selection of what's about on CB! Oh & build my experience in ID up some! lol
If we do more moth trapping I would be pleased to help. The weather needs to be just right and this will almost certainly mean last minute decisions.
Large Wainscot is The Clay
Common Carpet ..looks like May Highflyer
Cheers
Did you get any other pictures of the Footman.|???
Hello Andy, thanks for that & No we didn't - it did one the second it smelt fresh air. It has been decided it was a Common Footman now.
We are looking to be doing a moth night once a month through the flight periods next year, & might do another on the Bat night - Watch this Blog!
One night out of 365 is not a very good idea for selection of Moths at CB. I think somebody may get in touch with yourself & Charlie about us starting a better capture / recording routine at CB next year. We have found a much more productive spot for the trap now.
I am first to admit - We need all the help we can get with their ID at the moment.
No problem,,,keep me posted...
Footman are tricky and can be easily misidentified...looks interesting and Dingy footman have started to be recorded in Calderdale over the last 3 years...Keep an eye out next year..
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